echarp wrote: >Serge wrote: > > Obviously mark’s stance on citizens is questionnable for many here.
>ec: Definitely, yes. But what is worse is the online personality he > displays.
-M: WTF? Where have I broken rules or been unfair?
>ec: Yet I think everybody has a personal story, and everybody can change for the best if given the opportunity to. Around a beer, or online in an irc chat, mark could possibly learn to appreciate democracy. But we have to do with what we have. (democracy, rule by the demo)
-M: You even agreed that SD2-S is technically ‘democracy’.
So I do respect democracy.
You seem to direspect republicanism.
> > But isn’t this the whole point of the system, that because we do > > disagree in sometimes important ways, we might be able to come to > > practical solutions that offer a greater deal of flexibility?
>ec: What of the deep disagreements and disagreeable personality traits?
> > So I hope I am not being rude by suggesting this, but would it be > > possible for you to just collaborate on whatever is possible while > > keeping disagreements constructive and focused on the practical > > features and functionnalities of a TOP system? > >ec: You are not being rude. Trouble is that the disagreement is profound, and the arguments he > propose amount to nothing but insults (“lemming”).
-M: Who voted for the Bushmonkey if not lemmings? People keep dodging the TRUTH.
>ec: Yet he also pushes for a technical system with parts which are very much > alike lomax’s and even mine’s. Shame shame shame.
-M: Your V-V-V and my SD2-S are DP systems, like what Lomax endorses. My system is the most REPUBLICAN because it is the one with the most lemming filtration.
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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+1
Mark,
Your post contains no practical suggestion or constructive part.
Failing that, I don’t see a point in discussing any further. It’s
really a shame because your very presence on the group shows you have a
similar concern to ours in bringing more participation to the political
process.
Serge
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+3
+1 of course.
How many points until he reconsiders his positions?
How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this forum?
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+1
>ec: +1 of course. How many points until he reconsiders his positions?
-M: What points? I keep whupping you as evidenced by your dodging.
>ec: How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this > forum?
-M: I am the master because I am the one who promotes the most truth.
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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+0
-1
You consider “people” lemmings and the enemy of democracy, yet democracy is “rule by the people”, hence, you are not really a democrat.
> > +1 of course. How many points until he reconsiders his positions? > > What points? I keep whupping you as evidenced by your dodging.
You are a disagreeable person, so excuse me for not enjoying your company.
> > How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this > > forum? > > I am the master because I am the one who promotes the most truth.
See what I mean by “disagreeable”? Mark, you are not a person I appreciate, and I do not consider you of interest.
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+1
>ec: -1 You consider “people” lemmings and the enemy of democracy, yet democracy > is “rule by the people”, hence, you are not really a democrat.
-M: No, only most of the people are lemmings. SD2-S allows the lemmings to select non-lemmings.
> > >ec: +1 of course. How many points until he reconsiders his positions? > > M: What points? I keep whupping you as evidenced by your dodging.
>ec: You are a disagreeable person,…
-M: I am very lovable. :-) I think that you would like me in person.
>ec: …so excuse me for not enjoying your company.
-M: You did dodge again. Are you being the best Emmanuel that you can be?
> > > How many points until he does not consider himself as the master of this > > > forum?
> >M: I am the master because I am the one who promotes the most truth.
>ec: See what I mean by “disagreeable”? Mark, you are not a person I appreciate, and I do not consider you of interest.
-M: My techniques are powerful.
Don’t you find power to be interesting?
See, I am a mind control expert.
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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+1
+1
Its been a while since last time I read Marks posts. To many ad hominems, proving inconsistency for a sake of inconsistency, no goal orientation.
Too bad.
ATB,
Gale
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+1
>G: +1 Its been a while since last time I read Marks posts. To many ad > hominems,…
-M: Where?
>G:…proving inconsistency for a sake of inconsistency, …
-M: Where?
>G: no goal orientation. Too bad. ATB, Gale
-M: I’ll get there. Right now I am just responding to people.
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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+1
>S: Mark, Your post contains no practical suggestion or constructive part.
-M: Agreed.
>S: Failing that, I don’t see a point in discussing any further.
-M: You have practical suggestions?
>S: It’s really a shame because your very presence on the group shows you have a > similar concern to ours in bringing more participation to the political process. > Serge
-M: WTF are you doing?
shanti
Mark, Seattle WA USA
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+1