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Small things:
Could there be a remember me option on parlement for login pass?
Also in terms of length of pages, would there be a way to collapse information more, at least on the front page, to give a better view of what’s being discussed? (guess this goes back to tagging and categorizing)
In rating the posts, since if I have a filter set at +2 it will make me miss mechanically all new posts (by default at +1), would there be a way that a post by someone starts of with a score which is a weighed average of their previous scores (to accentuate the best and worst scores weight in the calculation of the average).
And I emailed you about this, but I was wondering why so many lines of post appear where there is only a score, ie +1 or other, is it that people actually propose a post with only this in the body, or is it that this is the way a click on the + button is shown? Could we get rid of the clutter?
Serge
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03/11/06 16:21
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And I emailed you about this, but I was wondering why so many lines of post appear where there is only a score, ie +1 or other, is it that people actually propose a post with only this in the body, or is it that this is the way a click on the + button is shown? Could we get rid of the clutter?
That’s normal. Each vote is in fact a post. Thus you can actually vote in your posts.
+1 <= here I just voted on what you said!!!
And this is an important feature, because each server can act as a node in a P2P net. The communication protocol being mails.
Trouble is, all those posts can clutter the screen.
I’m trying to change it, to make it so that a hidden post will not appear as a full line, but maybe as a dot (which you could click to open it). I don’t yet know how, css will tell me what I can do easily :)
Maybe hidden posts should just be that, hidden. No dot, no line. That would be easier to do.
Maybe posts with a score under 0 should be hidden. There is still the possibility to see them, but only if you choose not to filter at all.
What do you think?
What about sub posts with a good score. What happens if one of their parent is hidden?
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I still cannot see any test on the “latest posts” line. I went back to this one (03 11 06 and can read the test fine. The “latest posts” I cannot read to even evaluate how to vote on them. ??? Thanks, Bruce
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Hello hello bruce
As you know, it is possible to vote by mail. But the sent mail is not very interesting to many people, it’s mostly a way to agree or disagree with something, to make it more or less visible to the other users. But the content itself is not of huge value to many.
So by default, when a user posts a message containing only a vote, that user automatically votes negatively on it. This is to clean up the interface.
To nonetheless view all those texts (the one only containing votes and all those in the negative), you can remove your filter completely.
In the right hand side “filter” box, there is a selection between a list of numbers, choose the very top element, the one without any value, just before 0.
You are not filtering anything anymore.
But it is true that when going to see an element, even if its level is below one’s filter, we should probably see its content. So I just changed that accordingly.
What label should be used for not filtering?
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 01:43:26AM +0200, eggy wrote:
I still cannot see any test on the “latest posts” line. I went back to this one (03 11 06 and can read the test fine. The “latest posts” I cannot read to even evaluate how to vote on them. ??? Thanks, Bruce
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I did not realize the no filter choice.
I have now made a non filter so will see how this works Bruce
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The no filter label is definitely not explicit. Any value coming to your mind about it? “no filter” is a bit long, but maybe it should be thus.
Without a filter, you are going to see “everything”, This could become too many. I recommend using email filters, so that in case of volume, they at least are moved automatically to a dedicated folder.
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:00:27AM +0200, eggy wrote:
I did not realize the no filter choice. I have now made a non filter so will see how this works Bruce
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I tried no filter, seemed ok but not that many posts just yet. I now filtered +1 and could see text as I wanted until I got to this one: http://leparlement.org/Re_Parlement_47
I now assume this is a “vote” with no text. However it is rated -1 so why do I see it if I have a +1 filter? I suspect that is the actual vote? What do the filter numbers mean +1, +2 etc.
This needs to be explained in FAQ but I do not understand—yet- to explain it. I also am hampered by vocabulary as I do not understand some programer lingo, and not even enough to ask questions some times. We are making progress though. What a user needs is to know if they get to a “blank” page, it is supposed to be blank. The “vote” page has nothing on it except perhaps a -1 or such.The blank vote pages seem to be the root of my confusion. Could they be filtered out? Or labeled as vote page so not looking for text on them?
Bruce
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I have in fact made a change.
Now if you go to a post, even if it’s just a vote, it’s displayed without filtering.
Because if you click on an element, you most certainly want to see it.
Its sub elements are filtered as usual. That is, you choose a filter, all elements whose vote result is strictly below are hidden from view.
And yes, maybe the votes shouldn’t be displayed at all. What do you think?
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Thanks, this is just getting better and better !!
Bruce
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I’ve done another change to the interface. Now filtered elements don’t appear as a full line by itself. But as an orange >. It’s clickable, to browse it if wished.
It’s done to help the interface, to ease it. What do you think, does it work?
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I can not see a change. I still have filter box the same. Perhaps I do not understand how to access the change?
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Ahhh, I found a “vote” > and clicked it to see it was a vote. Very good! Much less confusing.
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Cool
And now, the “who is connected” box :)
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Ahhh, I found a “vote” > and clicked it to see it was a vote. Very good! Much less confusing.
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03/11/06 15:59
Screen clutter
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 01:25:46PM +0100, Serge wrote:
Also in terms of length of pages, would there be a way to collapse information more, at least on the front page, to give a better view of what’s being discussed? (guess this goes back to tagging and categorizing)
The proper way to decrease the number of elements displayed… is the filter.
Yet I plan to add a simple feature: show first the forums with activity.
This should push away the least used posts and resolve, at least partially, the problem of clutter.
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OK but the filter itself will run into a problem with scale. What if a hundred forums are active and noted as interesting?
Forums with more than 5 posts are automatically collapsed. If they have a lot of activity they will be listed first. It should organise things nicely and automatically :)
At the moment the filter works ok,
It still is rather slow, in fact due to a not large enough first page! Yes, because after 20 elements, the oldest elements/forums will be listed on a second page. This is currently not the case, thus they appear on the first page and are opened (opened because they often are rather small)!
(note that the “last active are displayed first” is not yet implemented, currently it is only “last created displayed first”)
Also (thinking of spam posts here) do you plan to make it possible for a user to filter out anonymous posts?
Not really, they are not differentiated on who originated what, just on their score. But anonymous posts start at a score of zero.
Cheers!
echarp
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03/11/06 16:02
Initial post rating
In rating the posts, since if I have a filter set at +2 it will make me miss mechanically all new posts (by default at +1), would there be a way that a post by someone starts of with a score which is a weighed average of their previous scores (to accentuate the best and worst scores weight in the calculation of the average).
Users are not rated, but, sometimes in the future (and in a far far away galaxy), there should be “delegations”, or “proxy”. That means one person can delegate her voice on one issue to another person.
A person to whom is delegated n voices will have its posts automatically voted +n. Thus, highly regarded people will be highly visible in the system.
Trouble is, delegations are difficult to code… :(
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03/11/06 15:55
Remember me
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 01:25:46PM +0100, Serge wrote:
Could there be a remember me option on parlement for login pass?
There is, and it’s automatic: you should be remembered unless you explicitly logout. But it seems I mismanaged the cookie settings…
Needs to debug it.
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Done and in production.
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