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[top-politics] Definition of TOP - need to finish our goal
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I have a little suggestion. Since through intensive communication we weren’t able to formulate a concise definition I propose that we take the text on http://top.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/TOP as a starting point, and see what is good, and what is bad in such a definition. Maybe through an OpenSource approach we can optimize this definition, e.g. write new versions and track down bugs until we are all satisfied with the definition.
Best regards
— Markus Schatten, dipl. inf.
e-mail: markus.schatten@foi.hr
http://www.tiaktiv.hr
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+1 Hey,
Just registered on the TOP website, I agree editing the Wiki is probably the simplest and fastest option to get the definition agreed on. Also it seems to me that if the mechanisms of TOP require a lot of thought and experimentation, defining TOP seems actually pretty straightforward. Probably deceptively since you appear to have had extensive discussions on it. I know that when talking to some friends about the concept of transparency there is no misunderstanding as to what is meant (ie, when you want to have a look, things are clear). I’ll try making some edits to the wiki, and then you’ll cut or keep depending on what you think and off we go.
Have a good weekend,
Serge
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Hello Serge.
If you think that would be the finest manner of realising this work, then I am proud to say we have set first competition in project menagement.
IMO, thorough brain stream is really needed for setting proper basic shell for this, where wiki is not as usefull as regular discussion group. Of course, my assumption might be wrong.
ATB,
Gale
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Hey,
Modified the wiki over the weekend, tried to keep the elements while adding some and making it more concise overall. Any comments or reaction?
Best regards,
Serge
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This is the current process we adopted, based on three basic questions:
Now, we are in the phase 1 called:
“Where are we now?”
In this moment we do share some thoughts about TOP and how do we understand it. In this very moment, as long as we just gathering new thoughts and perspectives, there is some need for free communication withouth too concrete bindings.
When we do share some thoughts, or at least when Serge gives his shot as long as others might be satisfied with they current participation in this very moment, next thing we can do is to take thoughts of OTHER participiants.
By pointing out thoughts of others, we can notice how penetrating are these thoughts in general public that is not based on our micro contexts that are not politically relevant.
Then we are entering to second stage which is:
“Where would we like to be?”
In second stage we share our expectations of future definition. What do we actually want from it? What are our desires and needs?
When we realise our needs, we can develop basic shell on xwiki and start filling it.
The last stage:
“How do we get there?”
Might be based on xwiki as recomended, yet the whole process is openstanding and can be changed if we realise there current process is not satisfactory.
Now, we can also set general dead lines and my suggestion is that we set next generation of TOP definition in 2 months in order of not letting this project die due to no time expectations.
ATB;
Gale
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Transparency
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Personally I love and appreciate transparency, I propose a criteria to determine if an organisation is strongly transparent => if it publishes enough data so as to be able to setup a duplicate organisation of itself.
This is particularly useful in democratic settings, where a duplicability criteria would help in order to audit any process and its data.
echarp – http://leparlement.org
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