http://echarp.org/Re_Definition_of_TOP_Systematization_29/index.rss [top-politics] Re: Definition of TOP - Systematization 2006-10-14 03:05:35+0200 http://echarp.org/Re_The_state_of_parlement_2/index.rss http://echarp.org/Re_The_state_of_parlement_2/index.rss illegale <p><p>+1</p> <p>This reminds me about compilating our recent intentions in order of getting back to them when the time comes.</p> <p><span class="caps">ATB</span>,<br/> Gale</p></p> 2006-10-14 03:03:28+0200 http://echarp.org/Re_The_state_of_parlement_1/index.rss http://echarp.org/Re_The_state_of_parlement_1/index.rss illegale <p><span>+1 &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span></p> 2006-10-11 15:17:02+0200 http://echarp.org/Re_The_state_of_parlement/index.rss http://echarp.org/Re_The_state_of_parlement/index.rss echarp <p><p>+1</p> <p>&gt; I am copying your implemented features and planned additions on the &gt; wiki so we may try to find a synthetic vision of the features a system &gt; would need.</p> <p>Cool, definitely very cool!</p> <p>&gt; Chiefly I&#8217;d like to add that this needs to be as easy as possible to &gt; install and implement so as to raise the chance of organizations &gt; adopting it.</p> <p><a class="readMore" href="#" onclick="Element.hide(this); Element.removeClassName(this.parentNode.nextSibling, 'tooLarge'); return false;">Read more&#8230; / Lire plus&#8230;</a> <div class="tooLarge"></p> <p>There are currently two dependencies: ruby on rails and PostgreSQL. The only one bothering me is the DB. Anybody knows of a good ruby DB to remove that dependency? (this would do the same trick as derby in a J2EE project)</p> <p>&gt; best regards,</p> <p>Thanks, take care</p> <p>echarp</p> </div></p> 2006-09-29 01:44:44+0200 http://echarp.org/The_state_of_parlement/index.rss http://echarp.org/The_state_of_parlement/index.rss echarp <p><p>On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 03:23:35AM -0000, Serge wrote:<br/></p> <p>&gt; We also would need to have a proposal at hand for what the system &gt; should be able of doing (Emmanuel do you have such a definition &gt; document?). Then again it&#8217;s not like it needs to be all slick and &gt; pretty since these documents are openstanding, it is more to provide a &gt; reasonable amount of information and direction for people to catch up &gt; on the idea and decide if they are interested and want to participate. &gt; Once the starting elements are there, it&#8217;s all about publicity. Talk &gt; on message boards forum, talk with political bloggers, email your &gt; address book about it, whatever you can think of to spread the &gt; word&#8230;.</p> <p>I don&#8217;t have much documents besides our discussions and <a href="http://leparlement.org">parlement</a> itself. Somehow, there is also <a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/parlement">rubyforge</a>.</p> <p>Basically, here are the already implemented features:</p> <ul> <li>threaded forum</li> <li><span class="caps">RSS</span> feed for latest posts <strong>and</strong> most popular posts</li> <li>login (optional password/email)</li> <li>each post is also a forum</li> <li>each post is also a mailing list</li> <li>server replication (in real time by mail)</li> <li>spam filtering (basic)</li> <li>votes: -1, 0 or +1</li> </ul> <ul> <li><a class="readMore" href="#" onclick="Element.hide(this.parentNode.parentNode); Element.removeClassName(this.parentNode.parentNode.nextSibling.nextSibling, 'tooLarge'); return false;">Read more&#8230; / Lire plus&#8230;</a></li> </ul> <div class="tooLarge"> <ul> <li>avatars</li> <li>personal display filter</li> <li>posts can be positioned</li> </ul> <p><a class="readMore" href="#" onclick="Element.hide(this); Element.removeClassName(this.parentNode.nextSibling, 'tooLarge'); return false;">Read more&#8230; / Lire plus&#8230;</a> <div class="tooLarge"></p> <p>In the future:</p> <ul> <li>long posts shortened for display (tomorrow)</li> <li>easy installation</li> <li>electoral lists</li> <li><span class="caps">PGP</span> signatures</li> <li>delegations</li> <li>range votes</li> <li>irc interaction</li> <li>individual votes life span</li> <li>web page updated in real time (chat)</li> <li>voucher for anonymous pseudonym obtention</li> </ul> <p>There are no roles, ranks, agendas, private settings, or obscured data. Everything is transparent, but for passwords (which are recorded as salted hashes and not replicated).</p> <p>Poll results will be calculated according to a given electoral list. Which would thus act as a caucus of sorts. Anybody will be able to setup any number of electoral lists.</p> <p>Anyone who has already posted to top-politics already has a parlement&#8217;s pseudo. It is the same as your mail&#8217;s name. Me for example, it&#8217;s &#8220;echarp&#8221;. Don&#8217;t hesitate to try it. You can, among other things, set up your avatar ;)</p> <p>Come and have a talk on <a href="http://VirtualMeetup.our-constitution.org">irc</a> (you need to have java on your machine).</p> <p>echarp &#8211; <a href="http://leparlement.org/irc">http://leparlement.org/irc</a></p> <p></div></div></p></p> 2006-09-27 22:29:58+0200 http://echarp.org/Re_Definition_of_TOP_Systematization_31/index.rss http://echarp.org/Re_Definition_of_TOP_Systematization_31/index.rss illegale <p><p>Serge wrote:<br/></p> <p>&gt; Hey Gale, &gt; &gt; when you ask what we can do about that, I take &#8220;that&#8221; to mean &#8220;If yes, &gt; why don&#8217;t we start try and get more developpers involved to build on &gt; leparlement&#8230;.&#8221;. The answer I would have is pretty straightforward. &gt; &gt; For starters we need an accessible and compelling statement of &gt; intention (<span class="caps">TOP</span> definition).</p> <p>OK. That is the job we are doing right now.</p> <p>&gt; We also would need to have a proposal at &gt; hand for what the system should be able of doing (Emmanuel do you have &gt; such a definition document?).</p> <p><a class="readMore" href="#" onclick="Element.hide(this); Element.removeClassName(this.parentNode.nextSibling, 'tooLarge'); return false;">Read more&#8230; / Lire plus&#8230;</a> <div class="tooLarge"></p> <p>Indeed. People will need definition (is that right word?) of future system in order of making people interested.</p> <p>&gt; Then again it&#8217;s not like it needs to be &gt; all slick and pretty since these documents are openstanding, it is more &gt; to provide a reasonable amount of information and direction for people &gt; to catch up on the idea and decide if they are interested and want to &gt; participate. Once the starting elements are there, it&#8217;s all about &gt; publicity.</p> <p>So, you think we do not get too loud before first two things are realised in satisfying manner? I do agree with this idea, as long as my previous attempts of getting people interested withouth any &#8220;catch&#8221; is actually far from satisfying experience. I believe we do indeed need to have some &#8220;product&#8221; first.</p> <p>&gt; Talk on message boards forum, talk with political bloggers, &gt; email your address book about it, whatever you can think of to spread &gt; the word&#8230;. &gt; &gt; <span class="caps">IMO</span> it&#8217;s not exactly easy to do, but it&#8217;s really not that hard either, &gt; all it takes is to actually get the ball rolling.</p> <p>OK. <br/> <span class="caps">ATB</span>,<br/> Gale</p> <p>&gt; &gt; Regards, &gt; &gt; Serge</p> </div></p>